Every 
civilization needs to rely on some system of beliefs and to have its 
own characteristic framework of references that people’ minds can 
rely on. For some civilizations it will be a religion, for others philosophical 
systems.
What is this framework when 
it comes to the Western world?
"For the Western world, since 
Rene Descartes, it has become science", explains Professor Fred Dallmayr.
‘What a relief!’ one might 
think. ‘Science makes for reliable bases to build the society on. 
Neither religion, based on faith, nor the philosophical system that 
can always be questioned is subjective. Not so science. Science is objective!’ 
This is what we have been taught at Western schools for many years.
However, when we glance outside 
the school window for a second, science does not look so certain any 
more. Take the example of  „time”. One of the greatest scientists - 
Issaac Newton - discovered that time is constant and passes regardless 
of anything else. That was a clear objective truth! We could all rely 
on it; there was no doubt about it any more. 
But then, Einstein’s 
theory of relativity came along and made the previous theory less objective. 
Time was no longer constant, it became relative. The same thing happened with many 
other discoveries, which were objective until the next theory undermined 
them.
"This ideal of objectivity, 
that we just look at the world and try to get it right, that is just 
an illusion, mainly because it does not involve us. What we have to 
bear in mind is that we are a part of the world that we are trying to 
be objective about, therefore we cannot totally objectify it," says Professor Dallmayr.
Relying on science as the foundation 
for the whole civilization has yet another drawback - it leads society 
to a peculiar arrogance, especially when it comes to relationship with 
nature.
 
"Since Rene Descartes’ philosophy, 
we developed this new model for the relationship between nature and humanity 
that places humans as masters of nature," stresses Professor Dallmayr.
The same argument was presented 
by Henryk Skolymowski in 1974 during his presentation at the School 
of Architecture in London. He argued that knowledge does not give us 
power to conquer nature to whatever extent we wish. This short speech 
laid the foundation for ECOPHILOSOPHY.  One of the leading ecophilosophers 
was Thomas Berry, whose thoughts were the main topic of Professor Dallmayr’s 
lecture „Ecological Crisis and Human Renewal: A tribute to Thomas 
Berry” during the „Responsibility Across Borders?” conference.
Why was Berry’s theory especially 
relevant for this conference?
"Both Skolymowski and Berry 
seek to develop the philosophical understanding of our ecological situation, 
so both employ resources of philosophical reflection to better understanding 
our place in tne ecosystem," explains Professor Dallmayr.
"I thought that Berry was 
particularly relevant to a conference like this, because this conference 
deals with global dialogue or cross-cultural dialogue. Thomas Berry, throughout all his life, was 
deeply involved in global dialogue. He travelled a lot; it influenced 
his philosophy giving it a interreligious and intercultural character. 
While previous ecophilosophers were Western scholars, trying to apply Western points of view, Berry is using his experience from Asia and applying 
it in his philosophy. It’s his cross-cultural background that makes 
his philosophy so relevant to this conference."
 
- What is this most important 
influence that comes form outside Western society?
Western philosophy is insistent 
on the human-nature gulf. It started with Descartes philosophy that 
made the division between the human mind and everything that is outside 
it. You do not find this split between humans and the divine or humans and nature in Eastern philosophy. Hinduism for example, is basically a 
philosophy of non-division, what they call non dualism, which means 
that you try to bring the human and the divine, or human and nature close 
together."
"What has to change is the glorification 
of science in Western culture. That is why I wrote the book „In Search 
of the Good Life”. The good life does not mean a scientific life; 
it means a morally responsible life, a faithful life, a life of devotion."
If the good life is not one based on science, what should  Western society be based on then?
"We can not just abolish science 
or technology. We have to rethink the role of science 
and technology and find new ways which are more responsible. The title 
of this conference is „Responsibility across borders”. We have to 
think how to have more responsible science. We need an „eco-friendly” 
science.
Yes, some people might argue 
that with technology you only get more technology, with science only 
more science. But we have to start treating science as an instrument 
for human comfort, we have to put science into its proper, limited place. 
We have to surround it again with humanities, art, aesthetics, faith. 
Therefore we should subordinate science and technology to the higher 
goals of humanity which are that goals of goodness, beauty and truth."
How can we do that?
"There are many different ways 
to change this situation. For me it’s a main goal of education. But 
we all can do it in different ways. Thomas Berry was trying to do it 
for almost a hundred years. Education is one of the good ways to overcome 
the problem. What we also could change is our economy and politics. 
Today’s economy is totally focused on profit, it doesn’t matter 
what it does to the nature. We have to change our thinking about the 
market. We can not let it work itself anymore; states should control 
the markets so that they work for society and not make societies work 
for them."
"And also politics needs a lot 
of reform. It has been almost entirely indentified with the struggle 
for power. If you have power you can do whatever you want. If you have power, you can destroy rainforests, indigenous people, natural resources- 
nobody can stop you. This conception of politics is very destructive. 
The fight for ecology is a 
struggle. It will not happen over night. That is why we need something 
like the "World Social Forum" to bring about those changes," Dallmayr concludes.
By Ula Papajak
About Fred Dallmayr:
Packey 
J. Dee Professor in the departments of philosophy and political science 
at the University of Notre Dame. He holds a Doctor of Law degree from 
the University of Munich (1955) and a Ph.D. in political science from 
Duke University (1960). 
He 
has been a visiting professor at Hamburg University in Germany and at 
the New School for Social Research in New York, and a Fellow at Nuffield 
College in Oxford. He has been teaching at Notre Dame University since 
1978. During 1991-92 he was in India on a Fulbright research grant. 
 
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